# Clean Code’s Impact with Uncle Bob

July 27th, 2023 | 01:20:32 | E88

### Episode Summary

In this episode we have legendary Robert Uncle Bob Martin come over to talk about Clean Code, professionalism, and courage. We cover:
- the impact of Clean Code on businesses' ability to change software and make money
- management pushback on applying Clean Code practices and how to handle it
- how managers get to the truth and how developers get to the truth
- professionalism, courage to take risk and saying NO despite potentially being fired
- writing tests to reduce risks working with legacy (and not legacy) code
- code ownership and pair programming
- following the code rules you establish
- a rapid questions round
- ask listeners' questions
- and much more

### Episode Notes

Clean Code: Architecture & Design Masters Class for Software Developers. It starts September 6th: [https://cleancodemastercourse2023.eventbrite.com/](https://cleancodemastercourse2023.eventbrite.com/)

More Uncle Bob's events can be found here: [http://thecleancoder.eventbrite.com/](http://thecleancoder.eventbrite.com/)

Clean Coders video courses: [http://www.cleancoders.com/](http://www.cleancoders.com/)